The Irony of CRM
Posted by mike - 08/01/09 at 04:08 pmAs the Co-Inventor of ACT!, which is attributed with being the catalyst creating the CRM industry and still to this day co-existing beside it, I have a truly unique perspective of using software designed to create more effective business relationships that began with ACT!’s release in April, 1987. Beginning with that birth of the whole “relationship management” spectrum from those early days when people relied on their paper systems through to the conflicts and ultimate ironies still surrounding CRM today, many unfortunate complexities still exist. This is a viewpoint from my observations…..
For many years now the business community has learned of, explored, selected, and implemented CRM (Customer Relationship Management) systems with the stated intention of providing better prospecting tools as well as significantly enhancing customer service. Notice I said “stated” intention. And yet, without much, if any, fanfare (for the obvious reasons) an untold, but huge, amount of CRM failures have occurred in many of these organizations many of which are in the millions and multi-millions of wasted investment. So what went, and what goes, wrong? Without simplifying what of course can be a complex set of reasons, it remains that there is one fundamental, and core, reason that this has and will continue to happen.
Amazing how so many well-intentioned people can get something so potentially powerful so wrong. So what is this problem? It is, without a doubt, that the very (primary) people it is intended to help - the sales organization - are the very ones who readily sabotage it. Why is that? Well, maybe despite the fact that it is bought “for them” it is designed “for everyone else” - often without even any input from the the sales organization. This is both a strategic, as well as attitudinal, issue controlled by people outside of the sales realm. No sales means no marketing or customer service. Yet marketing and customer service, along with HR, IT, and just about everyone else is allowed to dictate what they want out of the system that fully depends on the sales people to provide. Kind of like taxation without representation, and we all know the outcome of that scenario.
I actually witnessed a first-hand encounter of this very nature, by a huge Fortune 100 firm. Sitting at the table was the IT Manager, a designated “CRM Project Manager” (part of the HR organization), a Sales Manager, and a Salesman. If it weren’t for the threat of assault charges, the Sales Manager would have strangled the IT and CRM Project Managers. Why? Because they actually disallowed any and all participation from sales in the design of the CRM system. Sales had rejected all prototypes provided, but had not been allowed to contribute their own ideas nor state their needs. Sadly, they never were, and when the final version was given to them it was only a matter of months before the multi-million dollar “investment” collapsed altogether.
CRM systems will only achieve their fully-intended results when sales has ownership and the other cast members serve supportive roles. The items important to them, the design balancing the push-pull of information, and the design incorporation of “Useful Use” features and functions will go a long ways toward achieving success.
January 13th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
In my >40 years selling and leading sales teams and companies, I have often argued the pints which you so lucidly characterize.
Importantly the owner of a CRM system - and the person that leads a large group that should only be a stakeholder - is more often the CFO, and he/she also think they fund the systems.
My view (see ISO38500 et al)is that the CFO is responsible for the financial ‘Governance’ business - not for earning nor spending. The Business Units should own the definition of support and productivity tools which enable the Unit to deliver: repeatable and compliant results & processes which are efficient and devoid of risk.
In a few words: sales should be the principle stakeholder of the CRM system, and others only included to ensure compliance and risk management in line with company policy and Governance proceduures.
August 5th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Mike, with all respect for your pioneering efforts in the CRM arena, a significant onus for creating more customer/sales centric CRM systems lies not with consultants and management but with CRM vendors.
Without exception, every CRM system on the market today has at its heart a flat file data base. IT people understand databases, salespeople don’t. As a result CRM projects are relagated to IT departments where all creativity and spontenaeity are sqeezed out in favor of existing standards and infrastructure.
Very few sales people think in flat file databases. Rather they are creative and opportunistic, constantly looking for angles, for opportunity to sell value and to climb higher in the organization.
CRM vendors need to invent a totally new paradigm that leverages the sales person’s natural creative ability and the real world in which he sells. Databases just don’t cut it.
Ken Knickerbocker
http://www.xfi.com
610.256.9571
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:59 pm
Mike -
Nice piece. Even after 20+ years of this game, the issues at the heart of “good” vs “bad” implementations are still people.
Any CRM strategy needs to be company-wide & have employees at its’ heart. Anything less just dilutes strategic effort & spend.
Read more here:
http://dpp.sagecrm.com/blogs/talking_about_customers/
Ken -
>> every CRM system on the market today has at its
>> heart a flat file data base.
Even cursory research will tell you this is not true. And it’s much less about vendors but those who help a customer elicit their needs, based on their company’s strategy, and craft the solution to best match that need.
-= David
http://dpp.sagecrm.com/blogs/talking_about_customers/